mircalla
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Post by mircalla on Oct 11, 2008 20:52:57 GMT -1
I've been meaning to comment on this programme for ages but have been too disorganised. I thought it excellent. It's good to have someone thought of as pleasant, funny and creative come out and say 'I have a temper'. I was interested in the ideas suggested in the second part. I like the way he took an overview of possibilities rather than just saying 'this works, this doesn't.
I also admired his honesty in, despite his own view of his anger as not causing a passing problem, he included people close to him speaking about the devastating effect on them. It was a good lesson for someone like myself, who tends to excuse it because I don't 'hold a grudge' - it may not feel like that for others.
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Post by Polina on Oct 11, 2008 23:19:53 GMT -1
I thought the second part was good - not as emotionally draining as the first, but fascinating in a totally different way. I absolutely loved the interviews with Rory McGrath (who was fantastic) and the sports psychotherapist - his point about not having one's personal boundaries up did hit home to me too.
For me the best thing about this series was that it challenged at the same time the two opposite poles of opinion - firstly that it is never right to get angry, and secondly that it is acceptable once you are angry to show it how you think fit. I really don't think either of these are true. I have always felt that the capacity to get cross is there the moment you become emotionally engaged with what you're doing; it's easy for me to be cool about the matters on which fundamentally I don't give a rat's bum - or at least don't have a strong opinion - but as soon as I do care and am engaged, emotionally or professionally or both, the potential for getting mad is present.
But if this documentary showed anything, it was that whether or not you GET cross isn't the issue, but rather how you bring that to bear on the people around you, and the consequences to yourself if you don't get it right. The line that kept wandering round my head was from one of the other clients in the Anger Management group session - that you may never know what bridges you've burned by losing your temper in front of others. Ow.
I only had two tiny quibbles (oh, three - did I really see a caption come up as "Psychotherpaist"??). One was that I do believe you can take something away from a meditative philosophy without buying into the religious element. (I certainly do that with yoga; the spirituality of it doesn't chime with me at all, but I do like the sense of physical grounding and bendiness it brings.
And secondly, I thought it ended rather abruptly, almost as if the penultimate voiceover speech had been cut back. I thought it was a beautiful, well made and put together programme that provoked a lot of thought, so perhaps I just wanted more of it.
Good grief, I'm being a pompous arse. I shall go back and watch it again and pay particular attention to the bit just after the being-tied-to-the-ionising-machine bit, as unaccountably my brain seems to have difficulty reassembling itself at that point. Meep.
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mircalla
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'Knowing's easy, everyone does that ad nauseum. I just sort of hope' (The Doctor)
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Post by mircalla on Oct 13, 2008 20:36:03 GMT -1
For me the best thing about this series was that it challenged at the same time the two opposite poles of opinion - firstly that it is never right to get angry, and secondly that it is acceptable once you are angry to show it how you think fit. I really don't think either of these are true...................... But if this documentary showed anything, it was that whether or not you GET cross isn't the issue, but rather how you bring that to bear on the people around you, and the consequences to yourself if you don't get it right. The line that kept wandering round my head was from one of the other clients in the Anger Management group session - that you may never know what bridges you've burned by losing your temper in front of others. Ow. I absolutely agree with you here. I tend to be thought of as easy going until someone runs into my temper - which is foul. At work I find it easier to control because I'm in part slipping into a role as part of my job, so I keep that little bit of distance. Harder to manage elsewhere. I agree that anger isn't in itself wrong - there's nothing wrong with being angry about cruelty, for example. The morality is in what you do with that anger. Do you just rant around when I find I can become as awful at the person / people I'm ranting about, or do you channel it into doing something constructive. Life for me is often about the struggle to do the latter.
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Post by dizzyblonde on Oct 15, 2008 1:41:48 GMT -1
Hi, I have just joined I know it's late but heyho!! anyway I had been looking forward to this programme for quite some time, I saw the first show and thought how brave Griff was to give it a go and kind of bare his soul so to speak....thing is I missed the second show and thought oh! no bother I can watch it on iplayer only to find that no, I can't it wasn't there, not only that it hasn't been ever since.....I have searched and searched for it and can find nothing.....I see it says at the beginning of this website that it is to be repeated on sign zone, I have looked at my local paper and no mention of it. This makes me really fed up as enjoyed it and found it enlightening and was eager to see the other 2 programmes in the series, oh! b****r, no sign of it, it may be repeated in England or somewhere but not here in Scotland. For once you a good programme and nothing, well all I can say is trust the beeb to disappoint once again. Sorry to rant but honestly.
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Post by Polina on Oct 15, 2008 8:03:52 GMT -1
Hi dizzyblonde - Lovely to have you here.
I gather the BBC somehow screwed up the iPlayer upload; there seemed to be a lot of technical problems with it when it was first uploaded and then it vanished. Bah.
Anyway, I've found a sign zone repeat at 1:35am tomorrow morning (as in late tonight, if that makes sense....) and although I'm working off a Midlands region timetable it doesn't have it down as a regional variant in Scotland. I'll try and confirm that later but thought I would pop this up asap in case you were still about!
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Post by dizzyblonde on Oct 15, 2008 19:31:04 GMT -1
Hi Polina, thanks for the welcome to the forum....and thank you for checking about the programme for me.....I have checked my teletext and papers here and we don't have the repeat on this week.....I guess it must just be shown elsewhere. I will just have to wait and see if it comes my way in the near future. I do think it was very brave of Griff to put himself out there and bare his soul like this, I am sure there are not many personnalities who would have done the same thing, they are all too afraid of their public persona.
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Post by Polina on Oct 15, 2008 22:29:40 GMT -1
Boo! That's a nuisance.
I've sent you a PM by the way....
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Post by Polina on Jan 10, 2009 13:09:45 GMT -1
This is a little minisite the BBC set up, which seems to be permanent. I didn't put it up before as I thought it would be taken down in a couple of weeks, but here we are!
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jillymoo
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Post by jillymoo on Jan 10, 2009 15:25:38 GMT -1
Ooo,thanx for that Pol....I totally missed the prog,so it's much appreciated! **Skips off to have a look........** xx
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Post by Polina on Jan 10, 2009 15:54:29 GMT -1
Shhh but I may have a DVD shaped solution to that problem for you, jilly....
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jillymoo
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Post by jillymoo on Jan 10, 2009 21:38:06 GMT -1
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by jan on Jan 16, 2009 15:14:31 GMT -1
Just thought while I was here I would comment on this prog too!
I actually found it slightly scary to see him loose his temper. I know in the last but one 3 men in a ... that he lost his temper whilst sailing, but that goes with the sport. I know I've been yelled at by loved one many times to pull a certain rope, and by the time he's finished I want to hang him with said rope. All joking apart the interview with the secretary was very revealing, and I kind of wonder how I would have reacted to someone who permanently appeared to be loosing it. Probably dig myself a hole and hoped no-one noticed me...
It was interesting however to see the different therapies, and ideas that there are available, but sometimes it is better just to clear the air. Infact one couple I know of always thought their marriage dull unless they were rowing about something!
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Post by Polina on Jan 16, 2009 15:18:50 GMT -1
That wouldn't be us by any chance, would it, jan?
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Post by jan on Jan 16, 2009 19:12:51 GMT -1
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jillymoo
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Post by jillymoo on Jan 16, 2009 21:35:35 GMT -1
I like a good row occasionally,to clear the air and so on...but my OH is a sulker and a fan of 'not speaking' (for days,sometimes ) Grrrrrr.... xx
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